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Hakeem Olajuwon on Kobe 大夢談Kobe Mike Trudell | Lakers Reporter Jan 30 2011 3:23PM http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/110129kobehake Kobe Bryant eclipsed Hakeem Olajuwon's 26,946 points to move into 8th on the NBA's all-time scoring list with a steal and slam in the first quarter against the Sacramento Kings. 對上沙加緬度國王的第一節,憑著一次抄截後的快攻灌籃, Kobe的生涯得分總數超越了大夢:Hakeem Olajuwon的26946分, 升到NBA總得分排行榜上的第八名。 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnMx8z22mA0 影片
Kobe Bryant has been steadily assaulting the scoring records of the game’s all-time greats throughout the past few seasons, and in Friday night’s game against Sacramento, his first quarter dunk vaulted Bryant over Hakeem Olajuwon for eighth on the all-time list. 過去的幾個賽季裡,Kobe Bryant正穩定的衝擊著NBA的各項得分記錄, 週五在和國王的比賽中,憑著第一節的扣籃,Kobe超越了大夢的紀錄。 排到歷史總得分榜的第八名。 Two summers ago, Bryant spent a few hours working with “The Dream” on low post moves, and still raves to this day about both the session and about the former Rockets center that he says has the greatest moves in NBA history. 兩年前的夏天,Kobe曾拜大夢為師並花了數小時和他一起鑽研低位的腳步移動, 直到現在他都對那天的“課程”記憶猶新,並對前火箭傳奇中鋒讚不絕口, 稱對方有著NBA歷史上最為華麗的夢幻腳步。 We had a chance to speak with Olajuwon prior to the game against the Kings on the telephone; below is a transcription of our conversation: 在湖人和國王的比賽開打前,我們逮到機會對大夢進行了電話採訪,以下是內容: MT: With 13 points in Friday night’s game against Sacramento, Kobe Bryant will surpass your 26,946 career points to rank No. 8 on the NBA’s all-time list. What stands out to you about Bryant’s career? MT:Kobe只需要在對上國王的比賽裡得到13分就將超越你的26,946分, 成為NBA總得分榜新的第八名,對於Kobe的職業生涯,令你印象最深的是什麼? Olajuwon: Kobe’s accomplishments speak for themselves. His work ethic, his determination to be the best ... when you talk about Kobe, you talk about his work ethic and how great it is for someone to maximizing his potential. Kobe has reached his whole potential, and maintained it, pushed it as far as it can go. When he passes me on the all-time scoring list, I think there’s no question that it is well-deserved. He’s just a great, great scorer. Just to be mentioned as one of the all-time scorers is a huge accomplishment for me. Olajuwon:Kobe所獲得的成就已經說明了一切。 他的工作態度、立志做到最好的那種決心……當你談到他的時候, 一定會提到的就是他對籃球的態度,以及當一個人能將自己的潛能發揮到最大的時候, 他到底能做到多好。 Kobe已經充分發掘了他的潛力,並能很好的維持住,盡他的可能去延續這樣的優勢。 他在得分榜上超越了我,我覺得他當之無愧。他一直是一個如此出色的得分手, 而能夠被和這些偉大的得分好手們相提並論對我來說已是莫大的肯定。 MT: What are your reflections on the time you spent working with Kobe on his low post game following the 2009 season? MT:回想一下09年賽季結束後你指導Kobe低位腳步的那段時光吧? Olajuwon: I was surprised and impressed when he called me up that he wanted to come and work out. I said, ‘Kobe, you have all the moves already, you don ’t need me!’ He said ‘No, I want to master the post, and I love your game. ’ He gave me huge compliments (like that). So I knew right away how I could add value to his game from the post point of view, because my moves work better with quicker guys like him. Many of the moves require certain reflexes, agility and fakes. He’s the ideal player to use those moves, and he could add volume to his game. When a big man makes a move, for example, he has one dribble or two dribbles and has to go up, but with a guard, you don’ t pick up that dribble until the moment you’re ready to shoot. That gives him the advantage over every big guy that plays in the post because he often will have more dribbles to do more things. Olajuwon:當他打電話給我說他想來找我學習的時候我真的很驚訝, 也因此更為印象深刻。 我告訴他:Kobe,你已經掌握了各種腳步移動,你並不需要我來教些什麼其他的啊。 他回答說:不,我想要增加低位的統治力,而且我超愛看你的比賽啊~ 類似這樣大把大把的甜言蜜語攻勢他可給我來了不少啊。 對於要怎樣從低位的角度幫助Kobe替自己的能力加分,我瞬間就想到了, 因為我的腳步本就對那些速度型的球員更為適用, 大多數的腳步移動都會需要一定的反射能力、靈活性以及假動作的能力。 有這些條件就是運用好我流夢幻步法的理想人選, 而且有能力藉此更進一步提升他的比賽水準。 當大個子們使用這個腳步的時候,你運了一下、兩下之後就必須要收球了, 但作為後衛來使用的話,你可以一直運球直到你覺得有了合適的出手時機, 這就使他在低位對上那些大個子們時佔據了一些優勢, 因為他能運更多次的球並且掌握好持球時機來尋求更多的進攻機會。 MT: He’s mentioned that he also worked with you on dealing with double teams as well as some specific moves. How would you describe the session? MT:他還有提到說你們還曾針對怎樣應對包夾以及一些特別的腳步移動探討了一番, 能給大夥描述一下大概是怎樣的討論嗎? Olajuwon: We worked on basic moves to create space, how to free yourself from a guy and shake him off. We worked on how to deal with double teams, how to read the defense when it’s coming. It’s really important to be able to go both ways with a move. Any time the defense tries to figure you out, you counter with something else. What makes the moves so deadly is you take whatever the defense gives you. That’s why it was so much fun working with Kobe ... it was unbelievable. What was funny was the game the Lakers played against the Rockets (in the 2009-10 season) because I was there, and after Kobe shook Shane Battier with a move in the post, and finished off the glass, he looked at me and winked. The move was textbook. That was something that we had worked on so much. It made me very happy to make a contribution to his game, to add to his talents, to add to his accomplishments. Now, when I watch his games, I see how much he goes to the post .... And now I even see Gasol using some of the baseline moves, and I wonder, is he showing Gasol some of the moves? The quick baseline spin move is one I don’t remember seeing Gasol use before. Olajuwon:我們研究了怎樣藉著基礎的腳步移動來創造出空間,如何讓你自己擺脫防守; 還有怎樣應付對手的包夾,怎樣解讀對方的防守意圖等等。 能在攻防兩端都很好的運用你的腳步移動非常重要,當防守你的方法改變時, 你要能對此變化做出相應的調整; 當對手嘗試從你的移動去箝制你,事實上你卻做出了其它的動作來擺脫對方, 腳步移動會這麼重要就是因為你可以有機會以其人之道還其人之身。 這也是為什麼和Kobe一起練球會這麼有趣原因之一……他令人難以置信。 還有件很有趣的事,在湖人和火箭的那個系列賽(2009-10賽季),當時我在現場觀戰, Kobe在使用低位腳步晃開Shane Battier並且打板進球後看向我還眨了眨眼睛。 他那個腳步就像教科書一樣標準,這也是我們曾一起研究了好久的東西, 能為他的比賽做出貢獻,幫助他進一步提高自己的才能, 幫助讓他所獲得的成就更上一層樓,這讓我非常開心。 現在看比賽的時候,我看到他常常會待在低位, 而且我發現Gasol現在有時候也會運用一些底線的腳步移動, 不知道是不是Kobe也有教了他一些? 因為早期好像沒看到Gasol用過那些底線的運球轉身的技巧。 MT: How would you describe how you operated around the paint, and how you tried to impart certain facets of your game upon Bryant? MT:能不能描述一下你在禁區裡一般會怎麼行動? 還有你又是怎樣傳授自己的比賽心得給Kobe的呢? Olajuwon: I think my principle is to take whatever the opponent gives me. I would take something all day until they take it away. So if it’s the jump hook, I’ll do it until they counter it, then I’ll spin to the baseline. But when I see that he starts playing me honest, not giving me right or left, then I’ll start to create my own shot, force him to commit before I make my move. And Kobe is the master at that. Also, once they started bringing double teams, I developed some tricks over the years that just come by experience. That’s what I shared with Kobe, the secret of what I was trying to do, not just a demonstration. Then it’s about repetition. Olajuwon:我的原則就是見招拆招,對手怎麼防守你你就怎麼返還回去, 有時候我一整晚都痛打這些點直到對手做出因應。 比如做一個跳步勾射,對方的防守上來之前我會一直按兵不動,而一旦他們包上來, 我就會轉身溜進底線。如果他貼上來限制我做任何變向移動, 那我就會試著自己創造進攻機會,逼他出現失誤然後我再開始移動。 Kobe在這方面絕對是大師級的;而如果對手採用包夾, 我也憑著這些年的經驗開發出了一些相應的對策, 我分享給Kobe的就是我打球的一些撇步, 而這些只是看我演示一下是沒用的,想變成自己的東西需要不斷的練習。 MT: It would seem that it’d be difficult to retain all of that information in just a few hours, Hakeem? It’s obvious to say that Kobe’s one of the smarter and more cerebral players in the game, and natural to think his learning curve is a lot steeper than almost anybody’s. Did you find that to be true? MT:要在短短幾小時內就掌握那些訣竅肯定是很難的吧,大夢? 可能Kobe真的滿很聰明,擅於動腦子去打球, 那是不是也可以說和其他人比起來Kobe的學習能力還不賴,而且能學得更快呢? 你覺得是這樣的嗎? Olajuwon: Oh, no question. Because when I demonstrated the moves, he would quickly learn the secret behind the move. To him, it’s so easy because he has so many talents. With him, you only have to show him once. One time, and that’s it to make him comfortable. He’s just very natural. We spent 2-3 hours on some moves we’d repeat about 10-15 times, and towards the last 15 minutes of the session, he was flawless. When I took him to the airport, I could tell that he got it. He was excited. How many people can catch all that in such a short period of time? His ability, his knowledge and his talent is incredible. I was so privileged to be able to work with him. Olajuwon:嗯,毫無疑問。當我演示怎麼移動的時候,他很快就掌握了裡面的精華所在。 看起來一點兒也不費力,我想是因為他本身就是一個很有天賦的球員。 對他,你只需要表演一遍就行了,對他來說那就足夠了,就好像是他與生俱來的能力。 我們花了2到3小時研究那些步法,然後重複練習個10到15次,待到課程的最後15分鐘時, 他已經將這些掌握的差不多了。在我送他去機場的路上,我跟他說他已經完全掌握了, 他顯得相當高興。有多少人能在如此短的時間裡學會所有這些? 他的能力、知識以及才華都是如此得不可思議。 我很高興能有這個機會和他在一起練球。 MT: I know you’ve worked with several other players on low post game, most recently Dwight Howard. Has anybody ever gotten things as quickly as Kobe? MT:我知道你也曾教過其他一些球員這些低位的技巧,比如最近的Dwight Howard, 有人能像Kobe有這麼快又好的掌握度嗎? Olajuwon: No … No. I mean, look at what he’s coming in to start with! He has all these weapons. I showed him one move, and told him to use his reflexes as a guard, and he got it. Just by saying that to him, it clicked. All the moves were different from that point on. His reflexes are incredible. He’s a big guard, but he’s as quick as a little guy. Olajuwon:不……我的意思是說,有些是他本身就具有的能力吧, 他精通所有的進攻武器、各種技術,我展示一遍給他看, 然後告訴他在使用中要注意結合他身為後衛的直覺,他就懂了。 就僅僅只是口述一下,就足夠了。從那一刻開始,他的移動都有了本質上的不同。 他作為籃球選手的直覺很讓人吃驚,作為後衛來說他相對高大, 但他卻可以像個子更小的選手們一樣的敏捷、靈活。 MT: How different is it teaching a big man like Howard? MT:教一個像Howard那樣的大個子有什麼不同的地方嗎? Olajuwon: The moves I taught to Howard are different from what I worked on with Kobe. He also has tremendous athletic ability, but the moves are a lot different because Kobe can move differently. For example, I didn’t do a lot of jump hooks with Kobe, but I would do a lot with Dwight. It took three days with Dwight. We had more time, and I give him tremendous credit also. But Kobe ’s a guard posting up, and that’s always an (advantage). I’m a big guy, but when I face up my opponent, at that time I’m a small forward, I’m not a center any more. When Kobe’s posting his guy, he’s playing center. To have that kind of freedom, and (focus on) reading and reacting is the name of the game. If I’m bigger than a guy, why try to beat him outside? Go post him up. If you can do that like Kobe can (in addition to his other guard skills), it gives you something against everybody. Olajuwon:我教給Howard的腳步移動和我教給Kobe的並不相同, 他也有著很出色的運動能力, 但他們需要的移動並不一樣。 Kobe的移動能更加的難以預測。舉例來說,我沒教Kobe怎麼跳步勾射, 但我花了很多時間教Howard,我教了他3天。有更多的時間,我就可以教他更多些東西。 Kobe是個很會低位進攻的後衛,這永遠都是一項優勢。 我是個大個子,但當我面對對方的防守時,我就是個小前鋒,而不再是個中鋒。 當Kobe在低位單打小個子時,他就相當於扮演中鋒的角色。 自由地切換角色,解讀比賽並時時給予最合適的回應,這就是訣竅。 如果我的防守者比我要矮小,那我為什麼要和他在外線纏鬥呢?乾脆去低位解決他吧。 如果你也能做到Kobe他所做到的那些(除了後衛技巧外的那些技術), 那你就能遊刃有餘的應對任何對手。 MT: How do you put what Kobe’s done thus far in his career into context? MT:你會怎麼評價Kobe迄今已經達到的成就? Olajuwon: People always compare Kobe with Michael Jordan, and that’s the highest level of achievement right there. Even being mentioned with MJ is the ultimate compliment. When Jordan retired, you just thought a player like that wouldn’t come along again. But then Kobe almost immediately drew those comparisons, and that says it all. He established his own identity as one of the best players to ever play the game. Olajuwon:人們總愛把Kobe和Michael Jordan拿來比較,這本身就是最高等級的褒獎了。 即使只是被和MJ相提並論都是莫大的榮譽,當Jordan退休的時候, 你覺得像這樣的球員再也不會出現了。但Kobe居然每每都被拿來大肆比較, 這已經足夠說明一切了。 就像所有那些有史以來最偉大的球員們所做的一樣,Kobe打下了屬於他的印記。 MT: If you look at the Top 10 all-time scorers, Kobe and Jordan are the only guards other than Oscar Robertson, who’s now 10th. Kobe used the word “ feisty” to describe how the “little guys” got in there. MT:當你看著歷史排名前十的得分手,除了現在排名第十的大O外, Kobe和MJ是唯二的後衛球員,對於“小個子”們要怎樣走到這個高度, Kobe曾表示,需要的是:“衝勁”。 Olajuwon: Well, the two guard is the toughest position, the most athletic position. The average two would be a superstar at the four or five position with the skill set. So, for someone to dominate at the most difficult, the hardest position, it’s just something else. Both what set Kobe and Michael apart was that they were too big for most 2’s, and too mobile for most 3’s, so they have the advantage over most everybody. Very, very seldom do you find a player that matches up with them. If they’re as tall, they don’t have the same athletic ability or skills. Of course, it’s not just about having those physical advantages. The confidence and desire about their ability that they have, you can’t teach. It’s just a gift. That combination together? That’s a true leader that leads their team over and over to a championship. Individual accomplishments? Kobe is not worried about that, he just wants the championships. He’s a big picture guy. He’s playing to win, and when you play to win, everything else will follow. He’s scoring because he sees the opportunity to score. Olajuwon:嗯,得分後衛這個位子是一個最競爭,最需要運動能力的位子。 如果有一個平均水平的二號的技巧,一個四五號球員可能就可以成為一個Superstar了, 所以,對於這兩個能在最艱難的位置上稱霸的人來說,這是其他人完全不能相提並論的。 他們比大部分的2號位球員都要高大,又比大部分的3號位球員要更為靈活, 這就是為什麼他們能夠顯得如此與眾不同。 你很難找到有能力與他們對位的人,如果他們再高大一些, 可能就不會有那樣的運動能力和技巧,當然,身體上的優勢只是其中之一。 他們的自信以及對於勝利的渴望,是常人所無法企及的,那是與生俱來的。 融合了這些?他們就成為能夠帶領他的球隊一次次邁向總冠軍的真正領袖。 而個人成就?我想Kobe並不在意那些,他要的是總冠軍,他是個宏觀的球員。 他是為了勝利而打球,而當你一心為了勝利打球, 其他那些(成就、榮譽)自然都會有的。他去得分只是因為他看到了得分的契機。 MT: That’s a good way to put it, with Jordan and Bryant really being that rare combination of physical and mental gifts. MT:也就是說MJ和KB都是那種罕見的,身體和精神意志上做到完美結合的球員。 Olajuwon: Yes, it’s so much more than just one or the other. Talent and intelligence and motivation. Olajuwon:沒錯,而且還不僅是這兩者的結合, 事實上,應該是天賦、智慧和動力三者的完美結合。 MT: Having spent some time with Kobe and taught him some things, what have you seen from him since? MT:曾經和Kobe共度了一段時間並且教了他一些東西,這之後你和他有什麼後續嗎? Olajuwon: First of all, I was a fan of his before we worked together. I just have a tremendous admiration for him that he’s reached that level and is still wishing to improve. That says a lot. But now, I try to give him his space and I watch for an opportunity that we could get together again. But I don’t try to follow up. He knows where I am, and when he came to town, we had a chance to discuss how he’s feeling and how he feels about the moves. It was great (when L.A. played at Houston last season), especially when he winked at me. That was a treat. Olajuwon:首先,在教他之前我就是他的球迷了, 他已經達到了這麼高的水平卻仍然孜孜矻矻地想要繼續提升,對此我實在非常欽佩。 我也期望能有機會和他再聚聚,一起切磋切磋。 但我不急,還是給他留出一些彈性空間,反正他知道我在哪兒,而且當他過來的時候 (比如上賽季湖人打火箭那時),我們就能找機會聊聊他現在覺得怎麼樣, 還有現在對腳步感覺怎麼樣,那些互動很棒, 特別是之前在場上他對我眨眼睛那次,那可真是有夠歡樂。 MT: Finally, I wanted to relay to you what Kobe said earlier this week after a Lakers practice. Quote: “"In my opinion, he is the best post player ever, with all due respect to Kevin McHale. Hakeem was phenominal." MT:最後,我想轉述一句話給你,是Kobe本周早些時候在練習後接受採訪時說的: “讓我來說,他是有史以來最好的低位球員,雖然我對Kevin McHale也充滿敬意, 但Hakeem真的是個非凡卓越的球員。” Olajuwon: Wow, what an honor for him to say that. Coming from him that is the ultimate compliment for me. Olajuwon:哇、被他這樣評價真的是很大的榮幸,他能這麼說對我來說是最高的讚譽了。 -- 洛城 ███◣ 浪子 Los Angeles Boys ◢██◣ █ █ ◥█ φlin798183 ██ ██◤ █ ██◤ █◤◢█ █◣ ◢ ██◤ ◥ ◤ █ █ ◤ ◥█ ███◣ ███◤ ◢██ ◥██ ◢█◤ --
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推 :推不斷進化的kobe
02/08 15:42
cutejerry25
推 :推!!!
02/08 15:47
※ 編輯: LABOYS 來自: 140.113.123.33 (02/08 15:52)
derwy
推 :推浪子~~~
02/08 15:56
funkycat
推 :我才在想NBA版的廢文裡怎麼會有黃金,原來是你翻譯的XDD
02/08 16:05
Jerry3732
推 :感謝分享
02/08 16:17
CW4
推 :Kobe的pivot move是真的很棒
02/08 16:26
SULICon
推 :
02/08 16:29
blarc
推 :看完推! 翻譯辛苦了!!
02/08 16:44
laitsaichieh
推 :推!!!翻譯辛苦了~
02/08 17:03
imyoyo99
推 :推~!
02/08 17:12
gjack
推 :良材才適用名師出高徒, 回頭看看師承Jabbar的某人, 嘖嘖
02/08 17:15
Phancy
推 :推
02/08 17:15
askaaa
推 :推翻譯
02/08 17:17
handsomeku
推 :青出於藍了!!!
02/08 17:24
michael46
推 :不推不行了
02/08 17:27
black33689
推 :這篇真的很讚!!
02/08 17:54
QuentinHu
推 :推好文~~
02/08 18:41
MINAMIKE
推 :推一個 這東西鹼民直接無視
02/08 18:47
alice1012v18
推 :KB在2號有算比較高嗎?
02/08 19:22
zsh
推 :推阿
02/08 20:01
scottiting
推 :推推:)
02/08 20:35
wzmildf
:KB的身高在後衛來說算是偏高的喔..(曾經玩mp照著kobe的
02/08 21:48
wzmildf
:身高體重去設定自己的身材就能發現頗高)
02/08 21:49
richard1003
推 :6-6標準而已,不算高
02/08 21:58
richard1003
:T-Mac 6-8, KD 6-9這種才高得犯規
02/08 21:59
greymon62
推 :歐拉朱萬事不是覺得Howard吸收得不夠快阿...XD
02/08 22:20
kobe24best
推 :摳比應該沒有腳步踩不出來的吧 大夢只是傳授他感覺
02/08 22:29
SlamKai
:6-6 標準搖擺人身高
02/08 22:39
mcbirdy
推 :好認真,一個人的成就真的不是偶然的。
02/08 22:48
kazake
推 :推翻譯~~眨眼有影片嗎?XDD KOBE的領悟力真的頗高
02/08 23:02
mickey2567
推 :推阿~~
02/08 23:03
wangjason
:kobe24best反串滾
02/08 23:04
kevinastar
推 :真想看這段低位的影片~
02/08 23:24
laugino
推 :推
02/08 23:47
rogan32
推 :推好文
02/08 23:58
floriany
推 :推推推
02/09 00:01
wangjason
推 :補推
02/09 00:01
kobebrian24
推 :推推
02/09 01:56
kb81
推 :大推大夢與老大
02/09 11:16
pujolsX
推 :好讚!
02/09 13:16
blackmamba01
推 :看完後小弟哭了... 雖然以前不是大夢的球迷
02/09 13:57
mask82
推 :淚推~
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